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cheapbag214s · Posted: Thu 3:20, 05 Sep 2013 Post subject: A Conversation for Riyadh-spun5

A Conversation for Riyadh
During the Peer Review phase, numerous possible additions were stated, that we meant to incorporate in the article before it was made 'official'. Unfortunately, I have recently been ill,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and was unable to 'touch up' the content. So here is exactly what I wanted to include:- DON'T go out within the mid-day sun (during the summer months) unless you can possibly cure it. If you must, wear some sort of hat and stay in the shade around you can. Drink more water than you normally would. Remember that a full dose of sunstroke can knock you out for 2 or three days, whilst a gentle dehydration will give you an excruciating headache for twelve hours approximately afterwards. The easiest method to monitor your health is to check the colour of your urine. If it's clear or light-coloured you are OK, if it is dark-coloured you need to drink a minimum of a litre of water immediately. Besides normal police (mainly occupied with trying to control the carnage on Riyadh's roads) Saudi Arabia has a second police force; the religious police,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], or Mutawa. Their job would be to stop people (including non-Moslems) behaving in an 'inappropriate' manner, and to make sure that Moslem men don't skip Prayers. The Mutawa wear yellow-greenish shirts (the same colour as the German police,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], if that means almost anything to you) and always have beards. How active the Mutawa are depends upon whereby Saudi you are,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and on whether the current religious-political climate in the united states is 'liberal' or 'traditional'. Generally,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], the Mutawa are more officious in Riyadh than in other Saudi cities. If, like a Westerner, a Mutawa lets you know to behave, DON'T argue. A good thing to complete is to nod and leave behind him. If you are a woman, ensure your robes are covering you whenever possible, which hair is covered - this is exactly what he was probably complaining about. Many of them can't or won't speak English,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], if they feel they are not getting the obedience they expect, they will 'express themselves' while using sticks all of them carry. Just stay out of their way, take notice of the 'Dos and Don'ts' and also the Mutawa shouldn't hassle you. DO check when Ramadan is. (In the Western 2000, it had been in December, but is moves forward by 11 days every year,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], so in 2001 it will start in mid-November.) During Ramadan, almost no work gets done, and also the Saudis spend most of the day sleeping and most of the night partying. As a non-Moslem, during Ramadan make sure you DON'T eat, drink or smoke in public. (Most large Hotels, Offices etc may have a room put aside where non-Moslems can break the fast throughout the hours of daylight.) Finally, should you visit Saudi Arabia, You shouldn't be arrogant (keep in mind that,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], to Saudis,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], it's our lifestyle that's bizarre and contains much that's morally unacceptable, not theirs.) But,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], on the other hand, DON'T be paranoid. Although there are a handful of extremists who resent the concept of non-Moslems being in Saudi Arabia,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I get the impression that the vast majority of Saudi nationals actually quite benefit from the presence of Westerners in their country, as long as they don't misbehave. Like people everywhere,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], they do not worry about politics - on their behalf the existence of Westerners is probably an indication that there is another, exotic world away from boundaries from the Kingdom, and they probably be proud of the truth that their country is essential enough (and rich enough) for the Westerners to have to be there.
Do not assume that Mutawein (plural of mutawa) will gratify you by wearing green shirts for identification. Avoid ANY man with an untrimmed beard. Mutawein also tend to wear shorter thobes (robes) coming 8 inches to some foot across the ground as well as usually wear the top cloth (gutra) withOUT the two black bands (the agayl). During prayer time don't 'window' shop in Riyadh, specifically in the area from the 'new' Gold souk which the Westerners call 'Seiko' street. (close to the Mismak fortress). My experience with sellers in Saudi was very pleasant,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and that i would highly recommend that visitors check out the carpet souk and the spice souk. All sellers when last I was in Riyadh weren't Saudis,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], they were Indian, Egyptian, or anything BUT Saudi. This can be changing, however i never felt that sellers were particularly aggressive - definitely not in comparison with other countries I have visited. An added trouble with streets is the fact that there is an official name - posted or not - and a local name. Thus official King Feisal street is often called 'Wazeer' street by every one. additionally there's often an expat name given to help tell one another where something is situated, so Westerners make reference to Seiko Street, Chicken Street and Pepsi--Cola road, which are not even the local 'nickname' (by the way - don't use the word 'nickname' - nick means something VERY rude in Arabic!). Do not shorten names to 'Mo' for Mohammed or "ab' for abdullah. nickknames are an insult, especially shortening the specific Prophet. The most common nicknames allowed are 'abu' - combined with name of the man's oldest child - so King Abdulaziz was called 'abuTurki' after his oldest son, Prince Turki. Abu Shenob for men with a very large mustache). But unless you are tipped off it would be acceptable to complete otherwise, use full names in speaking to friends. The term chadour is Persian,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], In my opinion - the Saudis call the black garment an 'abbaya'. Another thing to be cautious about importing is any pork product - sausage or leather that is identifiably pigskin. And anything using the label showing it is from Israel. In considering magazines (watching those book and CD covers too) - avoid not just nudity,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], but any male/female touching - especially kissing. Fill page ads for whiskey aren't too wise either. Don't believe you are able to transport clear booze in water bottles and reseal them - they know that trick and can often open them randomly and smell. Especially if you have been in an accident (I loved driving there - but it IS a learned skill.). Re taxis - Always attempt to get what is called a limosine - NOT a yellow cab. Yellow cab drivers are Saudis and they'll drive terribly and haggle over prices. the limos are the same budget range (cheap!) and therefore are driven by Indians and other foreigners and they are much better drivers And can stick to the agreed price. Limos aren't fancy - they are simply not yellow - usually they're white, but they will have a light on top. When there is no meter - ask the cost first. they'll keep to the agreed price - tho some advice is not unwelcome! You are losing out on an excellent experience if you avoid the more local markets in favor of the upscale shopping centers (although these must be seen to be believed - wretched excess!). Souk al-Batha (bat - ha, not bath - a) and the old gold souk and the spice and cheap clothing souks just beyond it are lots of fun. Finally, guys walking alone could get hit on. Don't get upset and DON't start a fight. They take 'no' for an answer and it is not personal. Westerners possess a rep to be available - yes, men too, and several Saudis, kept separate from women and not able to afford a bride price will look for the next smartest thing - much like people in jail in the western world. (so if you're inclined to express 'yes' remember it is a capital offense so never do anything inside a public place) Any attempt to speak Arabic is greeted very favorably - even by cops. Also dressing in local clothes ( for men) - the robe, certainly not the headgear - gets a positive reaction, altho other Westerners will explain not to - but if you do this, become more careful to keep Saudi customs (don't have a mustache that covers the opening of the mouth at all,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], or long hair) as well as in sitting, do not show the foot of the foot to anyone If you're wearing a shoe or sandal. Bare or with a sock is alright) Riyadh is a wonderful chance to observe how a culture lives when it is not attempting to kowtow to western tourists. I suggest it to those who have a feeling of adventure and who can try to make it happen.
Yet another thing that would be ideal fun, if you're not a fanatic non-smoker, would be to visit a sheisha (hooka or hubbly-bubbly) restaurant. For around $1.00 US you will be brought a large sheisha with a fresh wad of aged, gummy tobacco and hot charcoal inside it. additionally, you will get a small sqaure of foil to pay for the mouthpiece which means that your cooties won't intermingle with those of persons who come before or after. A few of these restaurants are extremely fancy with mirrors and lounges; most are very simple with wooden benches or just cushions on the ground or ground. you will see carpets on the floor or floor. Some serve a hot ginger drink which you need to sip very slowly,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], if quickly swallowed, it might come back as quickly as it transpired. It is GINGER-Y! Also, of course the hot sweet tea is going to be served (for a small price) in the usual tiny glasses and you may will also get the green Arabic coffee - which is an acquired taste - with grounds present and lots of cardamom. I thought it mostly tasted like wet cardboard. Only for added info, a gas (or petrol) station is usually called a sheisha,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], because the pumps resemble waterpipes using their long rubber gas hoses attached.
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